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= Instructions =
* You may list as many of the options as you want in order of preference.
* Options are comma-delimited (ignoring space) and case-insensitive.
* You can pipe-delimit (|) options you want to give equal weight to.
* You may write in your own option if you announce it to the list first.
* You may specify a variant with option/variant, for example `srfi-1/module` to vote for `srfi-1` but clarify it should be in a separate module. Please also include the `srfi-1` option in this case.
* You can write a free-form rationale after the "preferences" line,
* `module` means "yes, but I want it in a separate module",
* `wg2` means "no, but I think it should go in WG2".
* `undecided` means I want to discuss this issue further.
* Abstain on any item by leaving the preferences blank.
= WG1 Ballot Items To Finalize By Jan. 9 =
== WG1 - Core ==
=== #32 user-defined types ===
Do we support any means of creating disjoint user-defined types, such
as in SRFI-9, SRFI-99 or the R6RS record system?
* '''Proposals:'''
* '''hsu:''' RecordsArcfide
* '''rush:''' UserAggregatesRush
* '''snellpym:''' UniqueTypesSnellPym
* '''Options:''' hsu, rush, snellpym, srfi-9, srfi-99, none, wg2, undecided
* '''Default:''' none
* '''Preferences:'''
=== #50 byte-vectors ===
Several SRFIs, R6RS, and most Scheme implementations support some sort
of uniform packed integer vectors. In particular, these are necessary
for efficient binary I/O, and for memory mapping, so WG2 will
certainly want them.
Do we provide a syntax and basic API for these in WG1?
* '''Proposals:'''
* '''cowan:''' BlobAPI
* '''snellpym:''' BlobsAndSRFI4SnellPym
* '''Options:''' cowan, snellpym, wg2, none, undecided
* '''Default:''' none
* '''Preferences:'''
=== #55 Lazy evaluation ===
R5RS provides a simple mechanism for easy cases of lazy evaluation.
It does not support generalized lazy evaluation, because all built-in
procedures are eager whether they 'need' to be or not. The relevant
identifiers are `delay` and `force`; they are not present in IEEE
Scheme. SRFI 45 argues that this pair is insufficient for expressing
common lazy algorithms in a way that preserves tail recursion, and
adds `lazy` (equivalent to `(delay (force ...))`, but acting
atomically) and `eager`. The semantics of `delay` and `force` remain
downward compatible.
Vote `srfi-45` to add just the bindings `lazy` and `eager` in addition
to `delay` and `force`, not all of the `srfi-45` utilities. Vote
`none` to remove `delay` and `force` from the standard.
* '''Options:''' r5rs, srfi-45, none, wg2, undecided
* '''Default:''' r5rs
* '''Preferences:'''
=== #57 Simple randomness ===
Student programs often want a small amount of randomness, not
necessarily of very high quality. Shall we provide a simple interface
to a random variable in WG1 Scheme?
* '''Proposals:'''
* '''cl:''' RandomnessCommonLisp
* '''cowan:''' RandomCowan
* '''hsu:''' RandomnessArcfide
* '''srfi-27:''' [SRFI-27]
* '''Options:''' cl, cowan, hsu, none, wg2, undecided
* '''Default:''' none
* '''Preferences:'''
=== #62 The calling context ===
Currently, there is no standard way to communicate with the context
from which a Scheme program was started. This has become pretty
standardized over time: a list of strings ("command-line arguments")
and a map from strings to strings ("environment variables") on input,
and a small integer or string on output ("exit value"). Scheme should
recognize these realities.
We have `command-line` and `exit` from ModulesShinn, so the question
remains if we should add SRFI-98 environment accessors.
* '''Options:''' srfi-98, none, wg2, undecided
* '''Default:''' none
* '''Preferences:'''
=== #68 "Undefined value" vs. "undefined values" ===
In R5RS, many procedures and syntax forms return an "undefined value".
In R6RS, the corresponding convention is to return "undefined values",
meaning an undefined number (including zero) of undefined values. How
shall R7RS go?
Vote `r5rs` for a single undefined value, `r6rs` for zero or more
undefined values, or `zero` for exactly zero values. Anything other
than `r5rs` would break R5RS (and IEEE) compatibility.
* '''Options:''' r5rs, r6rs, zero, undecided
* '''Default:''' r5rs
* '''Preferences:'''
=== #49 Undefined value API ===
Assuming a single "undefined" value (dependent on the result of #68),
users sometimes want to test for this value. If we enforce a unique
undefined value, one approach is to generate this value explicitly to
test against, such as `(void)` provided by some implementations.
Alternately we could provide a test such as `undefined?`. Either
approach breaks compatibility with existing extensions, and may be
prohibitively difficult to implement for compilers lacking a separate
undefined value type. Some programmers also consider testing for this
value sign of a broken design.
Vote `generate` for a `(void)` procedure, `test` for `undefined?`, and
`both` for both.
* '''Options:''' generate, test, both, none, wg2, undecided
* '''Default:''' none
* '''Preferences:'''
=== #69 SRFI 39 parameters ===
Should we adopt SRFI 39 parameters? How about a subset of SRFI 39 in
which parameters are immutable but bindable?
* '''Proposals:'''
* '''cowan:''' ImmutableParametersCowan
* '''snellpym:''' ParametersSnellPym
* '''Options:''' cowan, snellpym, srfi-39, none, wg2, undecided
* '''Default:''' none
* '''Preferences:'''
=== #70 accessing the system time ===
Short of a full time and date library, a single procedure
(current-seconds)
returning the epoch time in seconds, possibly as a real number, would
be useful and is sufficient to implement a full library (though access
to the host system's timezone would be desirable in that case).
Since some systems may not have access to a clock, we could make this
an optional procedure. Alternately, it could be defined as a simple
counter in such cases, providing an accurate notion of time ordering
but no sense of duration. Finally, it could return `#f` in the absense
of a clock.
* '''Options:''' required, optional, counter, return-false, none, wg2, undecided
* '''Default:''' none
* '''Preferences:'''
=== #78 Should we have case-lambda? ===
Should we provide case-lambda as in SRFI 16 and R6RS? It provides
simple overloading of procedures based on the number of their
arguments, and does not require that optional arguments appear only
after mandatory ones.
* '''Options:''' yes, no, module, wg2, undecided
* '''Default:''' no
* '''Preferences:'''
=== #82 missing port? procedure ===
It's not clear whether R5RS requires a PORT? procedure or not. It's
listed in Section 3.3.2 under Disjointness of Types, but not under
section 6.6.1 under Ports. R6RS requires it. Racket, Gauche, MIT
Scheme, Gambit, Chicken, Guile, SISC support it; Scheme48/scsh, Kawa,
and Chibi currently do not.
Shall we require it?
* '''Options:''' yes, no, module, wg2, undecided
* '''Default:''' no
* '''Preferences:'''
=== #84 Need to decide on a list of named character escapes ===
The WG has voted to have a list of character names.
The list in R5RS and the longer list in R6RS are only informative. I
suggest adopting the R6RS list and making it normative.
* '''Options:''' r5rs, r6rs
* '''Default:''' r5rs
* '''Preferences:'''
=== #87 Allow multiple producers in `call-with-values` ===
In R5RS and R6RS, `call-with-values` takes two arguments, both
procedures. The first is a ''producer'' of multiple values; the
second is a ''consumer'', to which the multiple values returned by
''producer'' are passed as arguments.
A possible extension is to allow multiple ''producer'' arguments,
flattening all the produced values together, analogous to Common
Lisp's `multiple-value-call`.
Do we add this extension?
* '''Options:''' yes, no, wg2, undecided
* '''Default:''' no
* '''Preferences:'''
=== #88 SRFI 87: => in CASE ===
SRFI-87 extends `case` with a `=>` clauses, analogous to the use of
`=>` in `cond` clauses, which allows you to pass the item actually
matched to a procedure.
Do we add this extension?
* '''Options:''' yes, no, wg2, undecided
* '''Default:''' no
* '''Preferences:'''
=== #89 SRFI 61: COND => with generator and guard ===
SRFI-61 extends `=>` clauses in `cond` with an optional ''guard''
form, such that after the value is generated and found to be true,
it's further checked against the guard. If the guard returns `#f` the
clause fails and processing proceeds to the next clause, otherwise the
clause is accepted as normal.
Do we add this extension?
* '''Options:''' yes, no, wg2, undecided
* '''Default:''' no
* '''Preferences:'''
=== #90 Multiple values in COND => clauses ===
Currently, `=>` clauses in `cond` accept a single value from the
''generator'' (right-hand side) and pass it to the ''receiver''
(left-hand side). Shall we allow the generator to return multiple
values and pass them to the receiver? If both this ticket and #89
pass, multiple values would also be allowed for generator/guard `cond`
clauses.
* '''Options:''' yes, no, wg2, undecided
* '''Default:''' no
* '''Preferences:'''
=== #91 INCLUDE at the REPL ===
Should we allow `(include "`''filename''")` at the REPL? This is
distinct from `import` in that it just loads code without altering the
module structure.
* '''Options:''' yes, no, wg2, undecided
* '''Default:''' no
* '''Preferences:'''
=== #92 Case-folding flags ===
The default reader in R7RS will default to case-sensitive, but users
may wish to override this in some situations. R6RS allows at the
top-level #!case-fold and #!no-case-fold read syntax to control the
case-sensitivity of the current file. Many existing R5RS
implementations, on the other hand, use #ci and #cs, with the
difference that they refer to the next datum only.
Note PortsCowan provides a separate means of controlling
case-sensitivity per-port.
Vote `per-datum` for the next-datum-only #ci/#cs syntax.
* '''Options:''' r6rs, per-datum, none, wg2, undecided
* '''Default:''' none
* '''Preferences:'''
=== #93 Removing string mutability ===
R6RS relegated `string-set!` to a module, and many modern languages
tend towards making strings immutable. Removing entirely, however,
breaks IEEE Scheme compatibility and should only be considered if you
believe mutable strings are fundamentally broken.
Do we remove `string-set!`? Vote `yes` to remove, `module` to
relegate to a module as in R6RS, or `no` to keep as is.
* '''Options:''' yes, no, module, undecided
* '''Default:''' no
* '''Preferences:'''
=== #83 Auxiliary Keywords ===
In R6RS auxiliary keywords (such as `else` in `cond` and `case` forms)
are explicitly exported from the `(rnrs base (6))` library. Do we
want to bind and export these from the core library?
Another option is to specify for `cond` and `case` that they match the
`else` identifier literally, ignoring any hygiene. This breaks
compatibility with R5RS and R6RS.
* '''Options:''' bound, unbound, unhygienic, undecided
* '''Preferences:'''
=== #101 exactness and equal? ===
In R5RS `equal?` is in some sense the broadest test for equality,
comparing structural equality, but also tests for the same exactness,
so that
{{{(equal? 0 0.0) => #f}}}
whereas
{{{(= 0 0.0) => #t}}}
Some users consider this confusing, others sometimes want an `equal?`
that behaves like `=` for numbers.
Do we want to change `equal?` in this way, or add a separate
exactness-agnostic procedure? Vote `yes` to change, `equal=?` for a
separate procedure of that name, or `no` to leave as is. Alternately,
write in a separate name.
* '''Options:''' yes, equal=?, no, wg2, undecided
* '''Default:''' no
* '''Preferences:'''
== WG1 - Exceptions ==
=== #18 exception system ===
R6RS provided a detailed exception system with support for raising and
catching exceptions, using a hierarchy of exception types.
Do we use this, or parts of it, or a new exception system? The `r6rs`
option is just for the core exception handling, not the conditions
hierarchy.
* '''Proposals:'''
* '''cowan:''' ExceptionHandlingCowan
* '''Options:''' cowan, r6rs, wg2, none, undecided
* '''Default:''' none
* '''Preferences:'''
=== #19 when to throw an error ===
R5RS defines many things as "is an error" without any specification of
what happens in that situation. R6RS goes to the opposite extreme and
specifies as much as possible what exceptions are raised when.
Taking into account the system provided by ticket #18, we need to come
up with guidelines for when exceptions should be raised, and clarify
which R5RS "error" situations should raise an exception or be left
unspecified.
R5RS specifies only 3 situations where an error is required to be
signalled, leaving most situations unspecified as described in
ErrorSituations.
* '''Options:''' r5rs, r6rs, undecided
* '''Default:''' r5rs
* '''Preferences:'''
== WG1 - I/O ==
=== #28 binary I/O ports ===
Do we provide any binary input or output ports, and if so how do we
construct them and operate on them? Can binary and textual operations
be mixed on the different port types?
PortsCowan provides binary port operations along with other
extensions.
R6RS provides an entirely new I/O system, as well as a separate
R5RS-compatible I/O system.
The withdrawn SRFI-91 provides yet another I/O system supporting
binary ports.
Note this item as well as #29 and #31 specify semi-orthogonal aspects
of I/O systems which are typically specified together by individual
proposals. If the same proposal doesn't win for all three, the
aspects will be merged as needed.
* '''Proposals:'''
* '''r6rs:''' [http://www.r6rs.org/final/html/r6rs-lib/r6rs-lib-Z-H-9.html#node_sec_8.2 R6RS Port I/O]
* '''r6rs-simple:''' [http://www.r6rs.org/final/html/r6rs-lib/r6rs-lib-Z-H-9.html#node_sec_8.3 R6RS Simple I/O]
* '''srfi-91:''' [http://srfi.schemers.org/srfi-91/srfi-91.html SRFI-91]
* '''cowan:''' PortsCowan
* '''Options:''' r6rs, r6rs-simple, srfi-91, cowan, none, undecided
* '''Default:''' none
* '''Preferences:'''
=== #29 port encodings ===
Do we support encoding and decoding text from ports with different
character encoding systems? Different end-of-line conventions?
Different normalizations? How are encoding errors handled?
* '''Proposals:'''
* '''r6rs:''' [http://www.r6rs.org/final/html/r6rs-lib/r6rs-lib-Z-H-9.html#node_sec_8.2 R6RS Port I/O]
* '''srfi-91:''' [http://srfi.schemers.org/srfi-91/srfi-91.html SRFI-91]
* '''cowan:''' PortsCowan
* '''Options:''' r6rs, srfi-91, cowan, none, undecided
* '''Default:''' none
* '''Preferences:'''
=== #31 custom ports ===
Do we provide a mechanism for custom ports, on which for instance
string ports could be created?
R6RS as well as a number of Scheme implementations provide custom
ports with various APIs.
* '''Proposals:'''
* '''r6rs:''' [http://www.r6rs.org/final/html/r6rs-lib/r6rs-lib-Z-H-9.html#node_sec_8.2 R6RS Port I/O]
* '''Options:''' r6rs, none
* '''Default:''' none
* '''Preferences:'''
== WG1 - Libraries ==
=== #36 hash-tables ===
R6RS and SRFI-69 both provide hash-table interfaces. Do we provide
either of these, or try to provide some primitives on which efficient
hash-tables can be implemented?
* '''Options:''' r6rs, srfi-69, no, wg2, undecided
* '''Default:''' no
* '''Preferences:'''
== WG1 - Macros ==
=== #48 let-syntax ===
`let-syntax` and `letrec-syntax` has known ambiguities in their
behavior. We have the option of altering the semantics to correct this
behavior, defining which behavior we intend, or removing `let-syntax`
entirely. We could also leave this ambiguity unspecified.
The question of whether or not to introduce a new lexical scope
(i.e. whether internal `define`s are visible outside the `let-syntax`)
is straightforward.
If we don't introduce a new lexical scope, the question arises whether
or not internal `define-syntax` forms are allowed and whether they
apply to the body of the `let-syntax`, forms following the
`let-syntax`, or both.
If internal `define-syntax` applies to the body, we may also wish to
specify what happens when said `define-syntax` redefines an identifier
bound by the enclosing `let-syntax`. This varies by implementation
and may be difficult for macro expanders to change, so is left
unspecified in the proposals below.
* '''Proposals:'''
* '''remove:''' remove both of these forms from the standard
* '''lexical:''' introduces a new lexical contour
* '''define:''' allows splicing `define`/`begin`
* '''syntax:''' allows `define-syntax`
* '''syntax-body:''' allows `define-syntax` only applying to the body
* '''syntax-follows:''' allows `define-syntax` only applying to following forms
* '''Options:''' remove, lexical, define, syntax, syntax-body, syntax-follows, unspecified, undecided
* '''Default:''' unspecified
* '''Preferences:'''
=== #97 syntax-rules special literals ===
`...` and with the result of #6 also `_` have special meaning in
syntax-rules patterns, so they are not treated as pattern variables by
default.
However their behavior when used in the literals list of
syntax-rules is ambiguous, and simply breaks in most implementations.
Rather than breaking, it makes sense to go ahead and treat
them as normal literals, overriding their special meanings.
In particular, there are many existing R5RS macros which
make use of `_` in the literals and are thus broken outright
by #6. Allowing them as literals fixes these macros.
* '''Options:''' literal, error, unspecified, undecided
* '''Default:''' unspecified
* '''Preferences:'''
== WG1 - Modules ==
=== #3 module naming convention ===
We need a naming convention for the core modules and standard
libraries of the new module system.
In R5RS everything is effectively in a single module. R6RS provides a
much more fine-grained breakdown of modules which could be
retro-fitted to the bindings we include in our standard.
John Cowan has proposed a number of module factorings in items #71,
#72, #73, #74, #75, #76, #77, as well as an I/O module breakdown in
PortsCowan.
Since the naming and breakdown must be internally consistent I'm
grouping these into a single ballot item. Members desiring to put
forth a new proposal should specify where all bindings belong, or
specify a subset of the bindings and default the rest to some other
proposal.
Note some ballots specify explicitly whether or not the bindings in
question are intended to be in a module or the core language. In
these cases we still need to decide to which module they belong.
Where specific votes contradict general factoring proposals, the
specific vote wins.
* '''Options:''' r5rs, r6rs, cowan, undecided
* '''Default:''' r5rs
* '''Preferences:'''
== WG1 - Numerics ==
=== #79 rational-expt ===
Often a rational-only exponentiation function is useful; that is, a
rational number raised to an integer power. Should we add this
procedure to the core so that exponentiation is available even if
inexact rationals are not provided or not imported?
* '''Options:''' yes, no, module, wg2, undecided
* '''Default:''' no
* '''Preferences:'''
=== #81 What numeric tower variants should be supported? ===
NumericTower lists a plausible set of ten from fixnums only to the
full monty. Which ones should we allow an implementation to provide?
R5RS requires only fixnums large enough to handle string and vector
indexes, while R6RS requires the full numeric tower.
Vote on the minimum level of support you want to require
(implementations may of course still provide more than this). I've
included only the most likely options below, write in other options if
needed.
Note ''requiring'' quaternions will ensure very few R7RS
implementations are ever created :)
* '''Proposals:'''
* '''r5rs:''' fixnum (`inexact?` is always false)
* '''inexact-only:''' inexact (`exact?` is the same as `integer?`)
* '''inexact:''' fixnum, inexact
* '''rational:''' fixnum, inexact, rational
* '''complex:''' fixnum, inexact, complex
* '''r6rs:''' fixnum, inexact, rational, complex
* '''quaternion:''' fixnum, inexact, rational, complex, quaternion
* '''Options:''' r5rs, inexact-only, inexact, rational, complex, r6rs, quaternion, undecided
* '''Default:''' r5rs
* '''Preferences:'''
=== #100 integral division ===
R5RS provides quotient, modulo and remainder for integral
division. R6RS extended this with div/mod and div0/mod0. A thorough
analysis of possible division operations is provided in
DivisionRiastradh, which includes a proposal for five separate
division operator pairs. We need to choose which API we'll provide.
* '''Proposals:'''
* '''riastradh:''' DivisionRiastradh
* '''Options:''' r5rs, r6rs, riastradh, undecided
* '''Default:''' r5rs
* '''Preferences:'''
== WG1 - Reader Syntax ==
=== #12 symbol literal extensions ===
In R5RS, symbols parsed as any sequence of valid symbol characters
that does not begin with a character that can begin a number. The
three exceptions `+`, `-` and `...` are also provided. This allows
parsing with only constant lookahead to determine type.
R6RS added additional exceptions for symbols beginning with `->`, a
common idiom, still allowing parsers to determine type with a constant
lookahead.
John Cowan proposes allowing anything that cannot be parsed as a
number to be a valid symbol. This removes the special case
exceptions, but may require arbitrary lookahead.
Alex Shinn proposes symbols are any sequence of valid symbol
characters that does not have a prefix which is a valid number. This
removes the special case exceptions, allows constant lookahead, and
allows extensions to number syntax.
* '''Proposals:'''
* '''r5rs:''' symbols may not begin with "-", except for "-" itself
* '''r6rs:''' symbols may not begin with "-[^>]"
* '''cowan:''' symbols are anything that doesn't parse as a number
* '''shinn:''' symbols may not begin with a number prefix
* '''Options:''' r5rs, r6rs, cowan, shinn, undecided
* '''Default:''' r5rs
* '''Preferences:'''
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